Re: [Anadolu_Arkeolojisi] Re: Çatalda Türkler

From: Faruk Demirci <farukdemirci_at_....>
Date: Sun 01 May 2005 - 13:51:34 EEST


Arkeoloji bir bilimdir, bu tip ideolojilerle i&#351;i olmaz. Ermeniler de tutar bu kafa ile Anadolu da Ermeni yurdudur der i&#351;in içinden ç&#305;kar. Bu tehlikeli bir mant&#305;k. Eger oras&#305; Türktür, buras&#305; lazd&#305;r, suras&#305; çerkezdir diye kategorileri ay&#305;r&#305;rsak arkeolojik yerle&#351;meler ba&#351;&#305;m&#305;za bela olur.Günümüzde Türkiye Cumhuriyeti
s&#305;n&#305;rlar&#305; içindeki her köy, kasaba,kentler,dereler,tepeler, bizimdir. Türkiye' nindir.Fakat Çatalhöyük, Göbeklitepe, &#304;kiztepe ve binlerce arkeolojik yerle&#351;me
insanl&#305;&#287;&#305;n ortak miras&#305;d&#305;r. Bu miras&#305; &#351;imdiki anlams&#305;z politikalara kurban etmeyin. Benim kavgam budur.Bana kal&#305;rsa ortada özür dilenecek bir durum yok. Zira &#351;ah&#305;&#351;lara laf&#305;m yok benim zihniyetlere laf&#305;m var.
--- Kamil KARTAL <allingus2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Evet Faruk Bey, hayat anlmasiz sorularla ve
> saygisizliklarla dolu.
> Ankara'daki Norveç ticaret atesesinin Diyarbakir'da
> yapilan Nevruz
> kutlamalarina kürdistan bayragiyla ve biji apo
> sloganlariyla
> katilmasinin da birbirleriyle hiçbir ilgisi yok
> zaten, ama oluyor
> iste. Dahasi, bu konunun [Anadolu_Arkeolojisi]
> adindaki bir listede
> dile getirilmesi de ayni derecede anlamsiz.
>
> Üsenmeden siraladiginiz milletler listesine bir de
> zahmet
> edip "Ermeni-diasporasini" ekleseydiniz, sorunuzun
> yaniti kolayca ve
> kendiliginden ortaya çikiverirdi, hiç oyle Kelt'lere
> gitmenize gerek
> kalmazdi.
>
> Genele yonelttigim sorumu, bu defa ozellikle
> sahsiniza tekrar
> gonderiyorum:
>
> Çatalhoyük'te Türklük kavramiyla bagdastirilabilecek
> ne bulunmus
> olmalidir, bir bilen var mi? Sorumun mantigi belli,
> kaynagini
> onceki mesajimda gondermistim, burada da var.
> Bilmeyen hiç
> yazmayabilir veya ille de yazilacaksa saygisizlik
> etme mecburiyeti
> neden hissedilir? Biraz sagduyulu olmak gerekmez mi
> Faruk Bey?
> Efendi efendi bir soru sordum, bunu hangi
> "saçmaliklar"la eslediniz,
> kimi, neye benzettiniz ve niye? Ben kendim
> yaziyorum ve hiç saçma
> olmayan bir soru soruyorum. Belki yanit verirken
> kolaylik olur
> size, mesela bir günes diski mi bulundu orada? Veya
> bir boga
> heykeli mi? Boyle bir bulgu mu Avusturyali profesor
> bir arkeologun
> Türklerin kokünü Çatalahoyük'e kadar
> indirebilmesinin nedenidir?
>
> Yanit verme imkaniniz olursa eger, bir insan olarak
> lütfedin, benden
> küçük ve kisa bir ozür dilemeyi çok gormeyin.
>
> Selamlar,
> Kamil
>
>
> > > > Subject: Son paragrafa DIKKAT---Striking
> Remarks
> > > By Erich Feigl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Striking Remarks By Erich FeiglPublished:
> > > 4/22/2005
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BY TUFAN TURENC
> > > > HURRIYET- A panel on �Turkish-Armenian
> Relations
> > > and Historical Facts� was
> > > > held earlier this week at Istanbul Technical
> > > University (ITU). Among the
> > > > speakers at the panel was well-known Austrian
> > > author and documentary filmmaker
> > > > Professor Erich Feigl, who made various
> incisive
> > > remarks during his speech.
> > > > Feigl is an expert on Middle Eastern, Central
> > > Asian and American cultures and
> > > > religions. He has produced several
> documentaries
> > > which have attracted
> > > > worldwide attention. He became acquainted with
> the
> > > events of 1915 while doing
> > > > historical research, and he quickly developed
> an
> > > interest in the issue.
> > > > Meanwhile, Turkish Attaché for Labor and
> Social
> > > Affairs in Vienna Erdogan
> > > > Ozen, a close friend of his, was murdered by
> the
> > > terrorist Armenian Secret
> > > > Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA) in
> > > 1984. Ozen�s murder affected him
> > > > so much that he wrote a book on Armenian
> terror
> > > called �A Myth of Terror.�
> > > > In his speech, Feigl lamented that Turkey has
> been
> > > unable to counter the
> > > > psychological war waged by the Armenians.
> Feigl
> > > said that the total number of
> > > > Armenians who lived under Ottoman rule was 1.7
> > > million, and only 700,000 of
> > > > them were sent away by the Ottomans.
> Therefore,
> > > their assertion that 1.5
> > > > million Armenians were killed is nonsensical.
> > > > Feigl also presented a new document, in which
> > > Boghos Nubar, leader of the
> > > > Armenians in exile early in the last centrury,
> > > admits that the Armenians took
> > > > sides with the enemy during the war. �It�s
> > > most fortunate that I could
> > > > discover this document before the Armenians
> could
> > > find and destroy it,� Feigl
> > > > said. �Because they have successfully
> destroyed
> > > almost every document against
> > > > them.�
> > > > Feigl also urged that Turkey not agree to
> discuss
> > > their claims, let alone
> > > > recognize them. �If you recognize their
> claims
> > > or even agree to discuss the
> > > > issue with them, next they will demand your
> money
> > > and land. You should never
> > > > ever do that,� he said.
> > > > Feigl ended his speech with a striking
> statement:
> > > �This land is yours. You
> > > > didn�t settle in Anatolia after the Battle
> of
> > > Malazgirt. Archeological
> > > > findings at Catalhoyuk prove that you have
> been
> > > here for more than 10,000
> > > > years�.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=40719
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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